Here’s a recap of the trip to Pittsburgh last Sunday, with some short updates on the EFI connections at the end.
Pittsburgh Recap
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Pittsburgh Road Trip
Sunday morning broke cold but sunny, and I hit the road at 7AM with the car already loaded. I had a 3.5 hr. drive out to the other side of Pittsburgh in front of me, but my podcast app was loaded and I was headed away from the sunrise—which was good, because my sunglasses are AWOL. The drive was unremarkable other than beautiful foliage blooming throughout southern Pennsylvania, and I reached Pittsburgh by 11:30 with one stop for expensive gas. The yard was on a hill above the river, and I found two Internationals among many large tractor trailers in a commercial yard. I texted the owner and got to work on the column.
Because the truck was already pretty well picked over I had free access to the stuff I needed: there were only two bolts under the dash to free up the column there, but the three bolts on the steering box were rusted pretty good and the nuts were inaccessible due to a gusset built into the frame. I’d thought ahead and brought my generator, though, and after about 10 minutes with a corded cutoff wheel I trimmed off the bolt heads and pried the box off the frame with a bitch bar. Now, I had to figure out how to get the column out—and I’d forgotten to bring my steering wheel puller. Thankfully, Joey, the guy selling the truck, had one in his shop down the street, and ran me down to pick it up. We paused to look over a beautiful C-series tow truck he’s finishing up, and then he brought me back up to the yard.
I had the wheel off in 5 minutes and then had to puzzle out how to remove the whole unit. The collar in the cab wouldn’t fit through the hole in the firewall (I had this issue with the green truck) nor would the steering box. I did notice the collar moving as I was tugging on it from inside the cab and realized it wasn’t connected to the box anymore—then saw that if I pulled on the steering box from the front, the rod inside slid out of the outer casing and suddenly I was holding those two elements in my hands. The outer tube came out through the cab with a little convincing, and I put the two sections back together on the tailgate of the Honda.
Then I went through the rest of the truck and pulled some other parts off: The windshield wiper motor, the instrument cluster, the radio blockoff plate, and a slightly banged up ’63-’64 headlight trim ring. Inside the cab someone had stacked some extra parts, and I fished out some more good stuff: two uncut metal door cards, a heater motor (the heater in this truck was melted), an ashtray, a marker light assembly, a window crank unit, two sun visors in good shape, and an emergency brake assembly. I did leave a bunch of larger stuff behind—two D-series windshields, a rear pickup window, an instrument cluster in worse shape, and a bunch of other stuff.
After loading up and paying Joey I hit the road at about 4PM and made it home by 8 after stopping for some dinner. The steering column doesn’t look too different from the unit I pulled out of the green truck, save the fact that it’s attached to a power steering box, so I’ll have two basic units to practice on before I do anything with the one in Darth.
Sunday Excursion
I’ve got a line on a manual steering column, which is excellent news, and the price is right. But excellent news is usually accompanied by a catch, and this is no different. The catch here is that the parts truck in question is outside of Pittsburgh, which is about a 4-hour drive away from here. It looks like it’s perfect for my requirements; the truck is in the open, in a clean yard, and the hood is already gone so there’s nothing in the way. I’d be pulling the entire column from the wheel all the way down to the box; I’ll just unbolt the box and maybe cut the pitman arm, or bring a fork and pound out the link. Then it’s just removing 4 bolts under the dashboard, disconnecting some wiring, and out it should come. Easy, right?
As usual though, I’m going to bring the entire recovery kit, and this time I might even bring my generator and a corded cutoff wheel, just in case. It’s going to be a long day and I don’t want to be out there forever.
Making this trip a little sweeter is a pile of leftover parts another semi-local Travelall guy offered me after restomodding his truck. He’s outside of Frederick, which is right on the way, and he has a full set of gauges, seatbelts, and a couple of master cylinders. The seatbelts are an excellent find, as the mounting brackets on some of mine are pretty roached, and the gauges may come in handy, although I’ve got three full sets already. But I can always bring stuff to Nats and sell it.
EJ Classics
Here’s something I thought I’d never see. EJ Classics, who are affiliated with Dynacorn (makers of new sheet metal for many different muscle car platforms) is producing new body parts specifically for the Scout II. The stuff I find most tempting right now are the doglegs that go at the base of the A and B pillars. It used to be you’d need to find a roached tub and cut the originals out to replace them, and a couple of years ago the Light Line dealers were hand-making them. Now I can get a set of A-pillar doglegs for $90, which is definitely in my price range.
Three of my four doglegs are in rough shape so this has been on my radar for years, and now that I’m feeling more confident in my welding and fabricating skills, this might be a project I can tackle this year. I’ve already got patches for the bottom of the inner cab wall, which need to be replaced on both sides.
Thanksgiving Picking
Up in New York State to visit my family this Thanksgiving weekend, I reconnected with a guy near my sister’s house who has a lot full of antique iron in some fields off a back road. He’d advertised a Travelette late last year which I was interested in picking over but when the green truck landed in my lap, my plans changed. In February he said he also had a ’62 Travelall panel van in rough shape (he sent me a few pictures) so I figured I’d take a few hours and finally go check it out (the Travelette has since been purchased). I packed my standard recovery kit: tools, torch, PBblaster, impact gun, pry bars, and cold weather gear. I also bought a cordless angle grinder based on previous experiences, but left it in the box in case I didn’t need it.
If you didn’t know where to look for his yard you’d never find it, but what a collection he’s got. He’s heavy into Studebaker, Willys, and old Chevrolet, but there are all different makes sprinkled in. After carefully edging past an ancient Hudson, we cut some brush back and crawled through a hole in the fence to reach the truck.
It was beached next to a dually 50’s Chevrolet truck and a bathtub Nash that was sinking backwards into the dirt. The Travelall was well-used and picked over pretty good, so there wasn’t much to see there; I grabbed marker lights, the rear barn door handle (now I can soak this, disassemble it, and rekey it for the red truck) and the ’62 grille and headlight surrounds, which are in very good shape. The steering column was completely gone as was the manual box, so that was a bust.
I walked through the section I was in and came upon a ’68 pickup with a cap in very good shape. Both doors were inaccessible so I couldn’t get into the cab, and lifting the hood revealed column-shift manual steering, so I didn’t go for that. But the sheet metal on the front clip was in miraculously good shape. Both turn signal buckets were solid and the metal behind them was too, so I talked with the owner and made a deal on the entire nose. He agreed to let me cut it out as opposed to trying to remove all the fasteners (both of the fenders were garbage in the usual C-series way).
So I unfastened what I could, pulled the radiator and drained it for him, and cut both sides out as carefully as possible. I found that my normal-sized 20V batteries weren’t big enough to keep the grinder going for long, so I’ll have to get a pair of larger ones when these are worn out.
After about an hour I had the sheet metal free from the truck but had to cut the bottom mount bolt out to get it around a big homemade bumper. This took several trips back and forth to the garage, where he had my charger on a long extension cord. Then I had to jimmy the clip backwards to scoot it under the top lip of the same bumper. With that out, and a set of perfect taillight buckets, I hauled my finds back to the car and gave him my cash.
He then took me on a quick tour of the collection, where he’s got even more stuff across the street in another field, including a beautiful old cabover IH tractor, several C-series pickups, and a B-series Travelall that used to be a civil defense vehicle. There were rows and rows of Studebakers, a beautiful porthole Buick, Packards and Nashes and a Morris Minor minus its convertible top. The collection went on forever. These kinds of yards are all but extinct up here in salt country, so being able to spend at least five hours there on a snowy Friday was a lot of fun.
As for my new parts, the top of this nose is in rough shape, but I should be able to graft the bottom on to my existing sheet metal. The area around the turn signals on my truck is the worst rust besides the cowl vents I repaired last summer, so having some good metal to work with was worth the effort. I’ve got several taillight lenses, a perfect bucket, and several front lenses. And the ’62 grille and matching dual-light surrounds. All in all, not a bad haul.
Floorpan, Continued
I spent a couple of evenings this past week breaking down the green Travelall doors and collecting all of the parts to see how things look. The passenger door is in worse shape than the driver’s; there’s a fair bit of rust-through under the wing window on the bottom. Both doors are down to the metal, but on each one the lower hinge needs to be drilled out. That may make reusing them both tricky, but I think careful screw removal and re-tapping the hole is possible. Both windows, scissor assemblies, latch mechanisms, and most of the window channels are all in good shape. I’ve also got a second set of pre-’65 door latches for both sides from my friend Don in Ohio, which will come in handy as spares in case I need them.
The other thing Don sent me was a spare set of IH mirror assemblies. One of them is basically just the bracket, but the other held the mirror housing (minus the mirror) which actually worked in my favor, because I can see how the interior parts are assembled. Essentially there’s a long rod that goes through the center, threaded at each end, and held in place with two brackets welded to the rod. So even if I wanted to pull the rod out of my good housings I couldn’t.
To recap, the threads on one of my good mirrors was so rusted the bolts snapped off on each side, leaving me with no way to attach it to the bracket. Pretty much the only way I can make my good mirror work is to carefully pull one of the endcaps off, pull the threaded rod out, and replace it with a new one. The rod is pretty simple; it’s 1/4″ and takes a 1/4″ – 28 thread, which is easy to find a die for. It’s getting the cap off that worries me. It’s thin steel over an aluminum housing, so I have to be very careful taking things apart.
Saturday I stopped in at a neighborhood estate sale and picked up $20 worth of brand-name used tools that will come in handy for backups and spares, including four vice-grips and several wrenches.
Sunday I got back out to the truck and continued cutting and welding new metal in to the passenger’s footwell. I wound up taking more metal out, as I was having blow-through issues with bad metal and finding some pinholes as I was cleaning other sections. I think I’ve got all of the bad stuff out, and the stuff that’s still mildly pockmarked just got a thick coat of encapsulator. Underneath I ground out the rest of the welds and got it ready for paint. All of this took the majority of the day, as I was doing a lot of cutting and trimming, which sent me back and forth to the bench grinder.
The paint cured overnight and is now ready for seam sealer, which will be applied liberally around the edges before everything gets primed. On the outside edge of the footwell I ground everything flat and covered it in etch primer; it’s going to get several coats of chassis black and then a layer of undercoating to keep out the water.
Finally, I used some vinegar to flush out the inside of the gas tank and let that sit for a day and a half , shaking it around inside to get the crud out and neutralize any rust. Running a borescope down inside the tank, it looks shockingly clean apart from the remains of mud dauber nests. I flushed it with water and a solution of baking soda, then flushed it again and set it out to dry. The outside was covered with undercoating and some surface rust along the top and sides, so i hit that with a wire wheel and quickly got the whole thing down to bare metal. When the top and sides were clean I covered the trouble spots with Encapsulator and the bare spots with etch primer. I’m back and forth about pulling the fuel sender, but leaning towards leaving it in, as I know that it works and don’t want to mess with that.
So in the next couple of days when the temperature gets above 60˚ I’m going to apply sealer and paint to button up as much as I can.
X-Ray Vision
I stumbled upon a re-listing of C1100 parts on Marketplace by a nice fellow named Don, who I’d bought a handful of things from earlier this year. One of the things in the upper corner of the picture that caught my eye was a set of West Coast mirror mounts, which immediately prompted me to get in touch. He sent me back a picture of them both, cautioning me that one was just the mount and the other was the mirror assembly minus the mirror. I told him that was what I was interested in.
This is almost as good as having an intact mirror; now I can see what the inside looks like and how my existing mirror is built without taking it apart. In the best case scenario I can pull the rod out of this one and put it in mine; in the worst case I can get a new threaded rod and fix the good one myself.
He’s also got a set of pre-’64 door latches, which are a lot more rare on the ground than the spares I’ve got, and something I can refurb on the bench and install at my leisure. We settled on a very fair price, and he’s going to throw the stuff in a box and ship it out to me next week.
Steering and Commerce
I popped on Marketplace Wednesday morning to find that a fellow up in Frederick, who I’ve talked to before, has a Travelall steering column for sale. Crucially, it’s from a straight-axle manual steering truck, which means it should be a direct replacement for the one in the red bus. Which means I would have a direct replacement/test case for an electric steering setup. He’s got the manual box and some other odds and ends, so I’m going to make plans to go up and get it.
While I was on that site, I got a notification and found that my old college buddy Mike bought one of my shirts and was modeling it! I think it looks great. I should have several of my own arriving shortly—a longsleeve and a shortsleeve that I can use on the videos to model. I also ordered a sticker while I was there and was….less than impressed. The material is flimsy and the sticker is small. I’m going to pull these from the storefront and stick with my other vendors, I think.
Of Locks and Boxes
It’s been quiet for the past two weeks. Last weekend we were celebrating a birthday and dealing with a yard sale so all truck things were on hold. This weekend I was down in Southern Maryland busting a trio of brake drums free on the FiL’s 1966 Chrysler to make it mobile again.
Two weeks ago I jacked it up onto a set of Harbor Freight dollies and used my tow strap to pull it out of the garage and on to the driveway, the first time it’s seen daylight since 1980. The dollies were pretty useless on his ancient pitted asphalt so it was a necessity to get it rolling on its own wheels again. In the middle of that operation, my old floor jack decided 4,300 lbs of luxury convertible was just too much to lift, as we ran out to the local Harbor Freight for a replacement. I’ve been eyeballing a new floor jack for months but was holding off on buying one. As it turned out they were having a 40% off sale on the more expensive 3 ton model so I walked out with a beautiful new jack. And after chopping the front drum apart with a $15 angle grinder, we got the drum moving and the car rolling.
I wound up with something in my left eye from the brake drum and got terrible sleep Saturday evening (if I can’t get it out with an eye flush this evening I’m going to visit an ophthalmologist tomorrow) but woke up at 7 to meet a guy in Columbia who wanted to buy my two worst Scout fenders. I was happy to get $100 for them, which was half what I was asking, but I’m happy to have them out of the office and out of my way. And the four remaining fenders will work just fine if I need them to.
In the meantime it’s been raining pretty much nonstop this week, and I was in New York on Wednesday and Thursday. That being said, I had a little time after work on Thursday evening to mess with a new set of lock cylinders for the Travelall; they lock into the barrels just fine, but release when the key is turned to the 8 o’clock position. I don’t have them in the door so I can’t tell if the mechanical linkage to the door mechanism will keep them in place or not, but something tells me this isn’t correct. Which is strange, because they are an almost exact match to the original cylinders.
The Travelall heater box is ready to install.. Sunday I put the motor, heating element and wiring back in the box, drilled new holes for the back plate, and fastened that in place with new stainless screws. Then I used some of the adhesive-backed foam padding from the Scout heater box to fashion a new lip around the top edge to seal up that section. It may need some more work, or thicker foam depending on how the whole thing ages, but we’ll see.
Going-To-Town Rig
Well look at this luxurious new truck. Here’s a shot of the floor mats I ordered in the Scout from CocoMats; they are beautiful heavy-duty pieces that were cut perfectly. I couldn’t be happier with the fit and finish. They make the inside of the truck look 47% less redneck, which is to say they are magical. Hazel approves as well. I cannot recommend this company highly enough; the whole buying experience was what you hope every purchase might be like in this day and age of Amazon.
